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GN[Open Round 1 Board 1 - Dae Hyuk Ko 7d (w) vs Bill Lin 7d (b)]PW[Dae Hyuk Ko]PB[Bill Lin]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2011-07-31]EV[2011 US Open]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[mw2a [1k\]: hi
oren [5k?\]: spelling error on the description
oren [5k?\]: excellent
EGC2011B1 [-\]: hi
evanj [3d\]: get out of here, foreigner!
Mike [2k\]: lol
mgelo [2k\]: isnt' the euro game still on
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the AGA E-Journal's live coverage of the 2011 US Open taking place at the US Go Congress in Santa Barbara, CA.  This is round 1, board 1.  I'm Dennis Wheeler, your game recorder this morning.
evanj [3d\]: yes...
evanj [3d\]: hello Dennis!  thanks for transcribing
mgelo [2k\]: B's name is Ko? oh boy
evanj [3d\]: they call him "SuperKo"
Brilliant [6k\]: Are either of these two on KGS?
Kamui [11k\]: On http://eurogotv.kom broadcast would not?
kaketoe [11k\]: So how does this work, is someone going to replay this game live? Or has it already been played?
evanj [3d\]: kaketoe: it will be relayed in real time
Florida [5k\]: It will be replayed close to live
evanj [3d\]: there's a person beside the board w/ a laptop
Florida [5k\]: usually only a few seconds of delay
kaketoe [11k\]: that's cool
evanj [3d\]: yes, it is
kostuek [3k\]: w is 14?
evanj [3d\]: w is young, 14 wouldn't surprise me
kaketoe [11k\]: so this is an US tournament?
evanj [3d\]: it is the main tournament at the US Open
evanj [3d\]: biggest go event in the US
kaketoe [11k\]: nice
YellowBell [6d\]: yay go bill ^ ^
YellowBell [6d\]: billling vs chunga : D
kaketoe [11k\]: well anyways, thanks to the person relaying i guess :)
Beeko [2k\]: Are these games ordered by importance?
evanj [3d\]: not really
evanj [3d\]: because this is the open bracket 
Goprince [3d\]: billlin on kgs
evanj [3d\]: i don't think, for ex, that these are the two strongest players in the tournament numerically
evanj [3d\]: though I suppose I could be wrong
YellowBell [6d\]: yeah bill is billlin and dae hyuk is chunga on kgs
Karcusrd [7k\]: need live stream
buggler [?\]: wooooot
kaketoe [11k\]: so, these are amateur dan ranks right?
YellowBell [6d\]: yes
evanj [3d\]: yes, but 7d is the highest rank in the AGA system
YellowBell [6d\]: there AGA amateur dans
kaketoe [11k\]: i see
YellowBell [6d\]: no its not
evanj [3d\]: it's not?
YellowBell [6d\]: no
YellowBell [6d\]: theres 9d too
evanj [3d\]: hmmm
YellowBell [6d\]: it goes above 9d also
USGO1 [-\]: video stream will likely not happen due to bandwidth limitations
Remina [4d\]: no, you're wrong; 7d is highest rank; 9d and above is highest rating
evanj [3d\]: i thought, say, jie li was a 7d for the purposes of these tournaments
YellowBell [6d\]: but only in . system
Karcusrd [7k\]: Please be live stream on the Earth
evanj [3d\]: even if he's numerically 9.whtever
kaketoe [11k\]: so can a player from the US obtain a professional rank?
evanj [3d\]: sure
YellowBell [6d\]: yes
Brilliant [6k\]: I think it is fair to say that if Jie Li is 7d, 7d is the maximum rank.
evanj [3d\]: but not in the US
YellowBell [6d\]: by going to another country
evanj [3d\]: e.g. Michael Redmond, good American boy, 9p in Japan
Syptryn [3d\]: are there any caucasions at US congress with chance of getting 1st>
kaketoe [11k\]: yeah fair enough
YellowBell [6d\]: 7d is not maximum u.s rank
Syptryn [3d\]: >?
evanj [3d\]: Syp: no :D
Remina [4d\]: yes it is yellowbell, you're confusing rank with rating
Syptryn [3d\]: al the top 3 boards look asian :)
YellowBell [6d\]: ?
YellowBell [6d\]: rank with rating but
bloodninja [?\]: whats the open section look like this year?
evanj [3d\]: don't know who strongest white American amateur is
Karcusrd [7k\]: look like Goban too me
evanj [3d\]: not sure you're supposed to ask that question :D
kaketoe [11k\]: haha
YellowBell [6d\]: feng yun is 9d - . -
YellowBell [6d\]: in aga
bloodninja [?\]: i heard mingming yin is playing
Karcusrd [7k\]: i dont see him
bloodninja [?\]: 1p
meghneel [22k\]: when does it start ?
evanj [3d\]: any second now
baltimore [3k\]: 7d is maximum u.s rank.  rating is what appears on the website
dcxb: they play so slow
Nyanjilla [-\]: serious games
USGO1 [-\]: we're waiting on repairing
evanj [3d\]: uh oh
kaketoe [11k\]: but i'm guessing that's still much stronger than a 7d rank on KGS?
evanj [3d\]: US Open already screwed up :P
Illyria [?\]: yeah, don't expect the first game at congress to start on time
Karcusrd [7k\]: plug the cameras in USGO1
YellowBell [6d\]: 7d aga is about 7d-9d kgs yes
baltimore [3k\]: I'm working on the cameras
Karcusrd [7k\]: thank you
Brilliant [6k\]: Some KGS 7d also are AGA 7d
Karcusrd [7k\]: EROGO is so crytal clear
Nyanjilla [-\]: give it a rest, Karcusrd
Karcusrd [7k\]: ok
kaketoe [11k\]: so you are not all that far away in strength from these players then, yellow
Karcusrd [7k\]: but the game has no stones yet Nyan
YellowBell [6d\]: well bill is a little stronger then i am
YellowBell [6d\]: so i guess im not that far away
kaketoe [11k\]: :)
kaketoe [11k\]: i must say i find it all highly motivating this
kaketoe [11k\]: long road ahead of me though 8)
Syptryn [3d\]: ah there any caucasians 7ds in the go congress?
Remina [4d\]: matthew burrall
Syptryn [3d\]: ah cool
evanj [3d\]: juyong koh
evanj [3d\]: is canadian
Syptryn [3d\]: does he play KGS?
kostuek [3k\]: just about 20 stones, not that long
Remina [4d\]: juyong koh is not caucasian lol
evanj [3d\]: oh sorry
evanj [3d\]: i thought he said canadian :D
Syptryn [3d\]: haha
Syptryn [3d\]: caucasion :)
evanj [3d\]: caucadian
kostuek [3k\]: seems b is chunga
USGO1 [-\]: player's colors have been swapped in the repairing
Remina [4d\]: gus price also is caucasian 7d
Syptryn [3d\]: Europe has so many tough caucasian players, guess not as many in US?
Remina [4d\]: true
YellowBell [6d\]: bill is billing
YellowBell [6d\]: *billllin
YellowBell [6d\]: i mean billlin sorry
kaketoe [11k\]: you have played him on KGS?
YellowBell [6d\]: dae hyuk ko is chunga
YellowBell [6d\]: yeah bill is my friend
SunnyD [2d\]: Delay??!??!?!????
kaketoe [11k\]: cool :)
Syptryn [3d\]: I like European go because of it, you get different styles
Syptryn [3d\]: from Asian countries
Syptryn [3d\]: so its good variation
evanj [3d\]: Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Syptryn [3d\]: after watching pro games
Syptryn [3d\]: I guess US go is mainly ex-inseis from Asia, so similar styles to Asian matches :)
SunnyD [2d\]: how old is Bill?
YellowBell [6d\]: 14
evanj [3d\]: disgusting
Remina [4d\]: someone's jelly
Syptryn [3d\]: nice, wonder if he participating in world youth champions
compendium [?\]: lol
YellowBell [6d\]: compendium your not participating?
Florida [5k\]: when does this game start if I may ask?
evanj [3d\]: any second now
kostuek [3k\]: err, wasnt b w and w b
Brilliant [6k\]: Andy Liu, Jie Li and Feng Yun all seem to have elected to stay away :(
palladium [-\]: there was a re-pairing
evanj [3d\]: yes, but now w is b and b w
kostuek [3k\]: oh ic
evanj [3d\]: jie li isn't playing? :(
compendium [?\]: jie li hasnt played in the open in a long time
Brilliant [6k\]: I can't see him on the list for this tournament or the NAIM
evanj [3d\]: huh... i could have sworn he played last year
YellowBell [6d\]: compendium why are you not playing??
YellowBell [6d\]: o . o
compendium [?\]: couldnt make it 
YellowBell [6d\]: awww : (
SunnyD [2d\]: they don't want to qualify for world amateur????????
Brilliant [6k\]: I'm sure I have seen Jie Li play in one of the tournaments, and relatively speaking I haven't been around Go for that long.
godhunter [5d\]: START
YellowBell [6d\]: bill made it at the last second he had just found a place to stay like 2 days ago
Beeko [2k\]: Jli is awesome 
USGO1 [-\]: the players are now struggling to set their clocks
evanj [3d\]: struggling?
Syptryn [3d\]: I'm not as familiar with top US amateurs as I am with Europes
Nation [4k\]: hrmm
USGO1 [-\]: do you know how to set an Ing clock?
Remina [4d\]: lol ing clocks
evanj [3d\]: no, i haven't wrangled one of those in years :D
Smochi [2d\]: ing clocks are the ones with a mean personality, right?
Syptryn [3d\]: maybe coz Europe gets to send 15x as many players to world amateurs :)
Illyria [?\]: I thought they're pretty intuitive to set
evanj [3d\]: Ing clocks are the ones that yell at you
Brilliant [6k\]: The only players I recognise are ones from KGS
Brilliant [6k\]: And Jie Li.
owen1234: will there be audio explanation for the game??
Beeko [2k\]: Jli is on kgs
kostuek [3k\]: thats the right way, brillant
Brilliant [6k\]: And Juyong Koh, for some reason. Does he normally come near the top?
evanj [3d\]: yes
Brilliant [6k\]: Jie Li is only just on KGS.
Remina [4d\]: Juyong's old KGS handle was Meatlover
ThiGar [4k\]: Hi USGO1, are any images streamed on a web-tv?
compendium [?\]: i wonder whos on board 4
Karcusrd [7k\]: ThiGar I have been asking for days now
compendium [?\]: maybe zchen?
USGO1 [-\]: ready to start
meghneel [22k\]: finaly!
SunnyD [2d\]: the 3D broadcast is delaying the game??
kostuek [3k\]: http://www.usgo.org/news/2010/09/dae-hyuk-ko-7d-wins-10-cotsen/
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]C[ThiGar [4k\]: Karcusrd, just arriving..
kostuek [3k\]: b is toast against this ko
evanj [3d\]: and we're off
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;W[dd]C[compendium [?\]: 9:30 starting time, impressive
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;B[qp]
;W[dq]C[Beeko [2k\]: leggo!
USGO1 [-\]: And Dae Hyuk leaves the table
Nyanjilla [-\]: . . .
Beeko [2k\]: Had to poop?
evanj [3d\]: p3? d5? c5?
compendium [?\]: he feels comfortable with the position 
USGO1 [-\]: Bill stares intently at the board
Mongoose11 [8k\]: going to go ride a motorcycle for half an hoiur to distract his opponent?
SunnyD [2d\]: He went to get juice
Karcusrd [7k\]: me and thigar are full of sorrow
palladium [-\]: please keep the comments related to the game
kaketoe [11k\]: what kind of time are they on?
SunnyD [2d\]: ING time 
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;B[oq]C[masek [-\]: Where i can see Pairing and REsult Table ?
cugel [1k\]: which game should i replay on my board ?
Karcusrd [7k\]: very natural Fuseki
USGO1 [-\]: masek, I'm not sure its available online yet
kostuek [3k\]: r10 next
mw2a [1k\]: do these players have KGS accounts?
LeT63 [-\]: This is already the second very strict admin today. What happened?
kostuek [3k\]: sometimes r14
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;W[co]C[kostuek [3k\]: well
cugel [1k\]: so classical
kostuek [3k\]: moyo game
Karcusrd [7k\]: 'pure Fuseki
evanj [3d\]: lovely
palladium [-\]: this is a big tournament game with a lot of observers, LeT
evanj [3d\]: They tend to be stricter about these big events, and rightfully so
LeT63 [-\]: ok, thx
USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk was joking before the game that he doesn't want to play on board 1 --- too much pressure
evanj [3d\]: not only that, he's w now
SunnyD [2d\]: He can always forfeit
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;B[jp]C[Beeko [2k\]: I dont understand why are the boards ordered?
]
;W[qj]C[YellowBell [6d\]: so the players can find them 
kaketoe [11k\]: would o18 have been too passive?
kaketoe [11k\]: 17*
Karcusrd [7k\]: 8 stone Fuseki
mw2a [1k\]: because there are no qualifies board makers near santa barbara?
Beeko [2k\]: kk
evanj [3d\]: o17 would have helped b to make a framework on the whole right side
evanj [3d\]: and it would have been better than w's because of the shimari in the bottom right
kaketoe [11k\]: i see, sounds fair
cugel [1k\]: shimari and their large extension, bigger than hoshi kakari
Syptryn [3d\]: ooh here we go
Syptryn [3d\]: hmm
Karcusrd [7k\]: wms left
Syptryn [3d\]: r-8 looks obvious :)
USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk returns from another short break with a cup of water
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;B[ql]C[cugel [1k\]: good
smileface [12k\]: r14
cugel [1k\]: do you have video food ?
]
;W[qf]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: thanks for the visuals stream USGO1
]
;B[qh]C[ThiGar [4k\]: thx USGO1 for those little 'ambiant' vignettes, adds.
Beeko [2k\]: Check the water for steriods
kostuek [3k\]: usgotv needed
cugel [1k\]: :)
kylefones [26k?\]: agreed kostuek
kaketoe [11k\]: this looks uncomfortable
]
;W[of]C[josek [6k\]: there is video stream for this game?
evanj [3d\]: nah, kaketoe
evanj [3d\]: totally normal so far
kaketoe [11k\]: :)
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;B[nc]
;W[rd]C[cugel [1k\]: situation is unstable
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;B[pi]C[cugel [1k\]: but soon, more clear
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;W[qc]
;B[kc]C[evanj [3d\]: L17?
reticent [5k\]: and here comes l17
evanj [3d\]: yup :P
cugel [1k\]: have to
Beeko [2k\]: 2 hours lol -_-
reticent [5k\]: treating r17 and l17 as miai (ish)?
evanj [3d\]: yes
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;W[pj]C[evanj [3d\]: if w takes one b needs the other 
Brilliant [6k\]: I have never understood this kind of corner pattern.
ThiGar [4k\]: play speed astonishing.
Brilliant [6k\]: It always seems to me that it ends with q16 looking a bit silly.
evanj [3d\]: hm
Brilliant [6k\]: It's not really doing anything any moer.
USGO1 [-\]: Bill carefully readjusts the stones on the board
reticent [5k\]: brilliant: on a tewari basis q16 and s16 are both less than ideal
reticent [5k\]: plus B's taken sente
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;B[ni]C[kostuek [3k\]: w has to pay for c5 now
kaketoe [11k\]: white still not uncomfortable?
evanj [3d\]: i don't really like Q10
John07Li [2k\]: still not uncomfortable?
kylefones [26k?\]: Watching these guys play always reminds me not to hope for other people's mistakes when I'm playing.
John07Li [2k\]: double negative
kaketoe [11k\]: yes as i meant it
evanj [3d\]: it's ok to hope for mistakes, just not to rely on them :D
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;W[pl]C[kaketoe [11k\]: i noted before that white was uncomfortable, but evanj explained he wasn't
USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk slams that stone on the board
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol
kylefones [26k?\]: Was it aggressive?
Mongoose11 [8k\]: the weakness of Q8/Q10 will hurt long-term
evanj [3d\]: well, if I'm playing w I'm uncomfortable after q10, but maybe that's just me
reticent [5k\]: q7 looks really really obvious?
John07Li [2k\]: black is winning that part
Curvature [1d\]: W's plan seems strange to me.  Why start this fight so soon?
cugel [1k\]: it's joseki
USGO1 [-\]: Bill had picked up a stone to play, but then  puts it back in the bowl
Karcusrd [7k\]: the fuseki caused this
cugel [1k\]: Q7 is not that obvious, you have R7 also
evanj [3d\]: i had thought the r10 stone could be lighter than this
Remina [4d\]: i find it hard to imagine b would play r7; it looks submissive
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;B[qm]C[evanj [3d\]: yeah i don't see r7 as a realistic alternative to q7
cugel [1k\]: but Q7 P7 w has good shape
evanj [3d\]: and as soon as i type that...
reticent [5k\]: and lo and behold...
GreedKills [2k\]: lol
cugel [1k\]: R7 is a classical move
USGO1 [-\]: and Bill leaves the table now for a short break
Riitoken [18k\]: w will play s12
Mongoose11 [8k\]: O9 now?
reticent [5k\]: i guess the crosscut might make it easier for W to make shape
cugel [1k\]: some dan need study ;-)
evanj [3d\]: but crosscut also makes b very thick
mw2a [1k\]: is b illin on kgs?
evanj [3d\]: maybe too thick, i suppose
Remina [4d\]: i think it's farfetch'd to say q7 is incorrect
SunnyD [2d\]: did the players eat breakfast?
cugel [1k\]: b corner shape is happy
YangXu [4d\]: isnt b only like 15?
Remina [4d\]: 14 apparently
YangXu [4d\]: o.O''
GreedKills [2k\]: farfetch'd lol
reticent [5k\]: remina: as a weak player i'm just trying to get a feel for what the considerations are :)
Remina [4d\]: no one remembers that pokemon
USGO1 [-\]: 2011 US Open pairings can be found online at http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/102 . Check back for updated pairings, results and game records throughout the week.
cugel [1k\]: but, interesting w skipped P10
GreedKills [2k\]: awesome
GreedKills [2k\]: i didn't but now i respect that joke
josek [6k\]: can someone post the link to the stream (if there is one?)
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;W[nk]C[evanj [3d\]: there is none
cugel [1k\]: he didn't want to induce O13
gtrabbit [4k\]: this is the stream
mw2a [1k\]: i thought this was a river
compendium [?\]: 2 pros in the field, cool
Mongoose11 [8k\]: M11?
USGO1 [-\]: Bill returns to the table and studies the board
Riitoken [18k\]: H16
reticent [5k\]: so how do we think about this position? i guess it's a direction-of-play question?
SunnyD [2d\]: who are pros?
cugel [1k\]: the center is urgent
evanj [3d\]: "Who are pros?"  How are we to interpret that question?
Riitoken [18k\]: only 1 disputed corner ... black owns the center for now
Remina [4d\]: looking at database, it looks like after k4 no more pro games follow; r10 is played instead of k4
kylefones [26k?\]: Because thier rank has a p
cugel [1k\]: look at O11 group
mw2a [1k\]: b should simply jump, henna?
cugel [1k\]: it is floating baseless
cugel [1k\]: same about O9 group
cugel [1k\]: so do something about it
Riitoken [18k\]: h16
evanj [3d\]: i wish i had that database...
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;B[lj]C[cugel [1k\]: no H16 runs away from the fight
mw2a [1k\]: h16 bizzare
kaketoe [11k\]: can black attack the q10 group?
cugel [1k\]: this is the key point for both !
evanj [3d\]: doesn't work on mac, though, does it
kaketoe [11k\]: hm
SunnyD [2d\]: B's thinking is to kill R10 group
smileface [12k\]: maybe with p9
Remina [4d\]: :P
SunnyD [2d\]: W's thinking is to kill Q11 group
GreedKills [2k\]: b is not looking to kill...
GreedKills [2k\]: .
ThiGar [4k\]: a 'strong player jump': always a bit tilted
mw2a [1k\]: i doubt w can die, but he wants to pressure it
cugel [1k\]: not really kill, no, but chase
Remina [4d\]: you could use VMWare I suppose :P
Goprince [3d\]: b isnt jumping hes attacking
evanj [3d\]: boo
Syptryn [3d\]: I didn't like q-8
Riitoken [18k\]: w h17
cugel [1k\]: don't worry, w is not qoing to H16
cugel [1k\]: nor H17
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;W[ll]C[cugel [1k\]: w has to help the center group
mw2a [1k\]: no, ritto, you are ignoring the status of groups
evanj [3d\]: am i the only one who didn't like q10?
kaketoe [11k\]: why don't you?
cugel [1k\]: why u don't like ?
Riitoken [18k\]: h17 is at least 10 pts for white
cugel [1k\]: heavy group ?
mw2a [1k\]: 10 points is ridiculously small
cugel [1k\]: but that's the price of w corner
SunnyD [2d\]: riitoken, you think correctly
GreedKills [2k\]: :P
cugel [1k\]: you know, a weak group is often counted as -10 points
mw2a [1k\]: sunnyd, don't troll
cugel [1k\]: and a dead group, -n points 
cugel [1k\]: n can be big
Remina [4d\]: o7 looks like the soft spot for w's group
evanj [3d\]: in this case it's fair to say n > 10
cugel [1k\]: yeah
evanj [3d\]: sure looks that way, remina
evanj [3d\]: and nice for b too
YangXu [4d\]: whites looks soft in general
kaketoe [11k\]: what does o7 do?
cugel [1k\]: very classical fight, almost boring
Jye [3k\]: o7, o8 then?
YangXu [4d\]: n7 
evanj [3d\]: o7 threatens to cut w's group in two different places, kaketoe
kostuek [3k\]: i like n14
YangXu [4d\]: such a nice corner after :o
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;B[fc]C[evanj [3d\]: f17? anyone? anyone? :D
cugel [1k\]: O7 feel early
Riitoken [18k\]: HUGE move
GreedKills [2k\]: lol riitoken
mw2a [1k\]: ...
Riitoken [18k\]: black wins
JIeBuc [19k\]: :D
cugel [1k\]: just a fuseki move
Theehero [9k\]: not even close to over XD
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;W[df]C[Riitoken [18k\]: b to play e10
cugel [1k\]: good to see the w tobi
evanj [3d\]: e? 10?
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;B[ch]C[kylefones [26k?\]: ?::::}
reticent [5k\]: is c12 playable here? a bit too narrow for the wedge
cugel [1k\]: correct feel
reticent [5k\]: evidently ues
reticent [5k\]: yes, even
]
;W[cj]C[cugel [1k\]: w to play and make D14 look good
]
;B[eh]C[cugel [1k\]: F14
Brilliant [6k\]: This game seems good for b so far.
evanj [3d\]: what do you mean by "a bit too narrrow for the wedge"?
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;W[ff]C[USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk sighs a little as he plays this move
mw2a [1k\]: maybe stone too heavy?
SunnyD [2d\]: W behind
Riitoken [18k\]: L14 for b or w is back in it
YellowBell [6d\]: there is no live stream : 0?
]
;B[bf]C[kostuek [3k\]: w m4 for banzai at some point
evanj [3d\]: no stream
YellowBell [6d\]: why not 
palladium [-\]: not for this round, maybe later
Karcusrd [7k\]: not yet
SunnyD [2d\]: what is banzai???
mw2a [1k\]: no, but there is a court artist sketching pictures
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol
josek [6k\]: its like a scream of charge, or attack
]
;W[ej]C[ThiGar [4k\]: would'nt c17(which lives) or c15 have been better than b14?
kostuek [3k\]: oh, there is no banzai in english
mw2a [1k\]: i wonder if c12 was a bit greedy
cugel [1k\]: B14 helps the b stones
cugel [1k\]: half base
ThiGar [4k\]: ok
cugel [1k\]: and, attack base of the w stones
kaketoe [11k\]: o11 group looks like it will be in danger soon?
]
;B[gh]C[cugel [1k\]: also avoids w C13 kick
Riitoken [18k\]: b must extend to g12
mw2a [1k\]: c15 would generally not be good shape because of d13
mw2a [1k\]: o, c15 not c14 you said
mw2a [1k\]: nvm
Karcusrd [7k\]: this game will only have danger at endgame
josek [6k\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banzai_charge
mw2a [1k\]: c15 c14
cugel [1k\]: this idea C12, is not passive invasion, but for b to attack
cugel [1k\]: and gain influence
mw2a [1k\]: did you guys miss the admin saying keep comments about the game?
Riitoken [18k\]: w to play h6
]
;W[hf]C[kaketoe [11k\]: riitoken are you a sandbagger or just a very confident 18k ;p?
KyrieSwagg [-\]: lol 
kostuek [3k\]: thx josek
kaketoe [11k\]: apologies
LeT63 [-\]: good call
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play L14
Riitoken [18k\]: just havin' fun trying to predict pro moves
cugel [1k\]: w also gain influence against top, ... which was the point of D14 to begin with
whatisgo [2d\]: G15
]
;B[hd]C[mw2a [1k\]: they are not pros
Riitoken [18k\]: compared to me they are
Grayson [16k\]: ^^
Syptryn [3d\]: don't think white has influence at top as much as beng undder attack...
YangXu [4d\]: to me, looks like white is getting pushed around >>"'
Karcusrd [7k\]: loving O6
Brilliant [6k\]: w has two weak groups. A pro would never do that.
Remina [4d\]: i like b's opening better so far
Riitoken [18k\]: L14 is HUGE
Riitoken [18k\]: for either color
Syptryn [3d\]: huh
LeT63 [-\]: L14 is nothing
Illyria [?\]: white is not looking so good here
yorugua [10k\]: agree, l14 is not a good moe for either
baltimore [3k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
YangXu [4d\]: cant wait to see the splittign attack
baltimore [3k\]: does it load?
cugel [1k\]: H16 good move, 1. connect b, 2. attack w, 3. make territory
Brilliant [6k\]: Hard to perform a splitting attack when the weak groups already are pretty split...
kostuek [3k\]: h12?
compendium [?\]: it loads
SunnyD [2d\]: ko looks young
cugel [1k\]: splitting attack means drive them towards each other in first stage
cugel [1k\]: of course they are split at start
ThiGar [4k\]: a 3-way splitting attack such as: http://senseis.xmp.net/?SplittingAttack
Remina [4d\]: he beat a pro back in 2009 in the samsung cup
Brilliant [6k\]: I can see USGO1 :P
cugel [1k\]: also maybe, aim at E15 
reticent [5k\]: evanj: what i meant is that there wasn't a point where B could play and have a three-space extension either side (after d14), ie no good wedge play, so that made me look at c12
reticent [5k\]: the question in my head was whether it'd be better to probe, eg d2, first
Remina [4d\]: i think i'd just play j13 here
reticent [5k\]: my thinking is of course 5k level (ie catastrophically wrong)
cugel [1k\]: at least u know it
kostuek [3k\]: maybe e18 some big
cugel [1k\]: open at B14, so i don't like
kostuek [3k\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: e-17 + B +16
Syptryn [3d\]: to take base
Syptryn [3d\]: in corner
reticent [5k\]: j12 "looks" obvious, but is it the wrong direction? which would point at, say, f10...
virtuoso [3k\]: why dont just c16
yorugua [10k\]: Lin moves a lot while his opponent thinks
virtuoso [3k\]: i mean c17
SunnyD [2d\]: H3
Syptryn [3d\]: don
LeT63 [-\]: c17
Syptryn [3d\]: t get corner
Syptryn [3d\]: with c-17...
Syptryn [3d\]: open on other side...
cugel [1k\]: C17 is not active
Syptryn [3d\]: kinda lame
cugel [1k\]: submissive
Syptryn [3d\]: and not alive
YellowBell [6d\]: go go bill <3
Syptryn [3d\]: you know bill?
YellowBell [6d\]: yeah
YellowBell [6d\]: hes my fried <3
cugel [1k\]: when you D14 and C10, can't afford corner cash
YellowBell [6d\]: *friend
YellowBell [6d\]: > . >
ThiGar [4k\]: white 's 3 top groups look like they are walking 'dame's
Syptryn [3d\]: you're from US?
virtuoso [3k\]: oh i mean black c17 hahaha nvm
KyrieSwagg [-\]: if ur for bill then im for Dae !
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;W[cc]C[cugel [1k\]: yeah well, 
cugel [1k\]: w has no plan :(
kostuek [3k\]: ^^
virtuoso [3k\]: i am 7d now
YellowBell [6d\]: me yeah im from the u.s
Symmetry: yea, it looks astho b has a good lead
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
YellowBell [6d\]: ^ ^
Syptryn [3d\]: c-17 is sad
virtuoso [3k\]: I am from Wisconsin anyone here?
USGO1 [-\]: I see shygost walking around observing the top boards
Riitoken [18k\]: but c17 would have been large for b
Syptryn [3d\]: I can feel Dae's sadness playing it
Syptryn [3d\]: why ain't you at congress? :)
YellowBell [6d\]: i had no way there
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
int3r [4k\]: is there a live broadcast on these games?
kaketoe [11k\]: somehow my attention is drawn to k4 here, looks like white is going to have nothing left?
GodofGo [6d\]: noo
kostuek [3k\]: shygost?
angl [4k\]: e15
virtuoso [3k\]: anyone from WISCONSIN?
YellowBell [6d\]: im going the the EGC next year though : 0
cugel [1k\]: this is a live bozarcast
Syptryn [3d\]: ah nice
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play L14 or K10
]
;B[eq]C[GodofGo [6d\]: lol
Syptryn [3d\]: I wish I wnet to Euro Go Congress
Syptryn [3d\]: okay
virtuoso [3k\]: lol
reticent [5k\]: so: how does this probe work?
Syptryn [3d\]: errm
YellowBell [6d\]: bill is good with moves like these ones
Syptryn [3d\]: this in't that much of a probe, white will anser e-4 for sure here I think
YellowBell [6d\]: he probably has a plan with this move
reticent [5k\]: right, i guess d2 e4?
Brilliant [6k\]: I thought e3 was less proby and more aiming at taking the territory betweek k4 and e3
Syptryn [3d\]: ya
Riitoken [18k\]: awesome move for b
Syptryn [3d\]: other option is d-2
cugel [1k\]: more like trying to block the edge with kikashi, before going back to central fight
Remina [4d\]: e4 f3 d2 f4 e5 is what Black wants
Riitoken [18k\]: aggressive ... 12 points 
kostuek [3k\]: k3
YellowBell [6d\]: when bill played this against me i did d4 : 0
GodofGo [6d\]: i think d2 but e4 works as well
kostuek [3k\]: well no idea
GodofGo [6d\]: g3!!!
Syptryn [3d\]: W00T
Syptryn [3d\]: GO g3!
cugel [1k\]: your idea should take M8 into account, of course
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
Syptryn [3d\]: perfecy with K4 around
kostuek [3k\]: e4 would be what b want for sure
]
;W[gq]C[GodofGo [6d\]: Omg
cugel [1k\]: yes
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
Syptryn [3d\]: W00t!
kostuek [3k\]: nice
GodofGo [6d\]: W00T
cugel [1k\]: resisting
Syptryn [3d\]: G3 is like giving K4 the finger
evanj [3d\]: cool
kaketoe [11k\]: someone care to explain what is so special about this ^^?
USGO1 [-\]: And Dae Hyuk gets up from the table
Remina [4d\]: it's just a probe kaketoe
YellowBell [6d\]: yeah theres a live stream
evanj [3d\]: kaketoe: normal response would be to play adjacent to the stone that has been attached to
reticent [5k\]: kaketoe: well, for a kickoff, it's ignoring a contact play :)
Syptryn [3d\]: you gotta act imposing
GodofGo [6d\]: w should have j4 maybe
Syptryn [3d\]: when you play overplay
Karcusrd [7k\]: USGO1 does W have a pro glow on face
Syptryn [3d\]: like g-3
cugel [1k\]: what is special, is answer a contact move with non contact
kaketoe [11k\]: yes i see
GodofGo [6d\]: counter attack :D
YellowBell [6d\]: karcusrd theres a live stream : 0
quappe [4d\]: bbw not playing ?
YellowBell [6d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
YellowBell [6d\]: bill looks tired XD
cugel [1k\]: nice try
Syptryn [3d\]: I'd be happy enough with conrer c-3
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play F4
reticent [5k\]: d2?
Syptryn [3d\]: c-3 is standard settling move
evanj [3d\]: handheld camera??!
Syptryn [3d\]: but black might ant to be more aggressive
Brilliant [6k\]: Maybe it's just on a really wobbly stand.
SunnyD [2d\]: can someone give me a login?
ThiGar [4k\]: awright!
YangXu [4d\]: seems like e3 was too reckless now....black probably regretting not playing f3 now :)
reticent [5k\]: syptryn: care to give us a few moves as to how it works?
USGO1 [-\]: Bill has been figgity all morning
Syptryn [3d\]: c-3 to get corner
virtuoso [3k\]: c3 get corner
reticent [5k\]: c3 d4 d2 is pretty obvious, so I guess the harder line is c3 d2
Syptryn [3d\]: f-4 I think to start a fight
USGO1 [-\]: yes, the video stream is Todd walking around with his mobile phone
evanj [3d\]: ahahahahahha
cugel [1k\]: w is trying to make M10 look pointless
Riitoken [18k\]: F4 builds the group and maintains large center influence
cugel [1k\]: C3 is fine if you only think of terr terr
YangXu [4d\]: USGO1, in the stream, who in playing in the back in the striped shirt?
mw2a [1k\]: get some string, and tape it to the ceiling hanging over a board
mw2a [1k\]: perfect.
ThiGar [4k\]: pretty good quality to boot!
kaketoe [11k\]: hmm make m10 look pointless, how is that?
evanj [3d\]: just tape it to one of the player's foreheads
reticent [5k\]: (glass-topped goban, under-table camera, you know it makes sense. anyway, back to the game;) if c3 d2, what's B's move, c4 nobi?
USGO1 [-\]: YangXu, that's board2 - Mengchen Zhang
ThiGar [4k\]: outside temperature?
Syndus [10k\]: is eurogo streaming this board?
mw2a [1k\]: or better yet. tape the phone to a hat and put the hat on the head of one of the players
Remina [4d\]: Yongfei probably strongest amateur in Canada next to Juyong
YangXu [4d\]: Thanks for bringing the stream over :)
virtuoso [3k\]: i guess F3
Syndus [10k\]: nvm, ^_^
athenus [7k\]: how happy is b with d12 group, didnt gain anything did he
athenus [7k\]: ?
SunnyD [2d\]: lol, someone put on sunglasses to play go
Slayan [5k\]: fast game
GodofGo [6d\]: lol... what is the cameraman doing
np100 [9k\]: cause they a boss
athenus [7k\]: stream?
USGO1 [-\]: a couple of times, Bill takes a stone from the bowl, but then puts its back
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
mw2a [1k\]: i think he wants to win via a dinerchtein
Remina [4d\]: most annoying thing you can do is to swirl a finger in the bowl while you're thinking
mw2a [1k\]: oh, man, imagine playing against a toddler
Syptryn [3d\]: hmm
athenus [7k\]: why so many children, are they that good?
mw2a [1k\]: when you lose you cry inside
braincrash [?\]: d4 
Remina [4d\]: they learn quick
ThiGar [4k\]: please: what kind of sequence could be read behind G3?
Syptryn [3d\]: d 4 looks crude :P
braincrash [?\]: wuts ur idea
Syptryn [3d\]: I'd just c-3
SunnyD [2d\]: time check please
Syptryn [3d\]: take corner in sente
Syptryn [3d\]: and then reduce resulting influence
Syptryn [3d\]: by attacking M8 group
nesco [?\]: is white hoping to cut G12 off?
josek [6k\]: b look far ahead
]
;B[dp]C[cugel [1k\]: good
Riitoken [18k\]: nice
]
;W[cp]C[braincrash [?\]: crude it is
Syptryn [3d\]: hah fine I stand corrected :)
Syptryn [3d\]: they want to fight
sameasyou [3d\]: f3
ThiGar [4k\]: we will all learn a lot from this game
GodofGo [6d\]: yea im thinking f3
sameasyou [3d\]: or c3 first then f3
cugel [1k\]: u think about terr terr too much
braincrash [?\]: b needs aji in d8 area
evanj [3d\]: spytryn, what was your sequence after c3?
Ops [3d\]:  white r stronger than black
remsleep [7k\]: atari under then bump g3 ?
athenus [7k\]: cugel, what to think of instead
braincrash [?\]: d2 c3 e4 
]
;B[fq]C[Ops [3d\]:  no way
cugel [1k\]: looool
Ops [3d\]:  that's 2k to 1d move
]
;W[dr]C[cugel [1k\]: do you have imaginiation, fighting spirit or something ?
virtuoso [3k\]: i am 7d :)
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
]
;B[gp]C[Ops [3d\]:  yes u r
Syptryn [3d\]: hmmm
Ops [3d\]:  8-)
cugel [1k\]: this is all about M8 group
Syptryn [3d\]: white choice confuses me
braincrash [?\]: i have large ones
Syptryn [3d\]: he may as well play the e-4 variation
SunnyD [2d\]: Bill looks so nervous, I don't think he can last the whole game
Syptryn [3d\]: if he chose this
np100 [9k\]: he blinking alot
remsleep [7k\]: M8 group or big bottom
braincrash [?\]: this is all about g12 
cugel [1k\]: yes the two are related
athenus [7k\]: how
Syptryn [3d\]: white has problems
athenus [7k\]: let us understand too :D
Syptryn [3d\]: he should refinece m8 grp
braincrash [?\]: e5 looks ok
cugel [1k\]: it is hard to invade bottom for w, if center is not safe
ThiGar [4k\]: yes, leaning attack ultimately aiming at m8
Syptryn [3d\]: or it'll b under severe attack
]
;W[ih]C[braincrash [?\]: nice asking
SunnyD [2d\]: can B peek into the screen, he might get help from our powerful kibitz
athenus [7k\]: braincrash, please explaint your thoughts
cugel [1k\]: what i don't get, is C17 stop
Riitoken [18k\]: strong move for white
psibrr [4k\]:   < any video of event? >
evanj [3d\]: w needed a base
Riitoken [18k\]: changed the entire complexion of the upper middle
athenus [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
cugel [1k\]: H16 that severe ?
braincrash [?\]: since this was all about g12, w wants that decided
GodofGo [6d\]: ad begins in 30sec?
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: strong move!
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play H10
]
;B[fj]C[GodofGo [6d\]: lol that thing popped up suddenly
evanj [3d\]: i think so, cugel
]
;W[fk]C[cugel [1k\]: ok good
]
;B[gj]C[evanj [3d\]: if b gets c15 after h16
]
;W[ei]C[YellowBell [6d\]: awwww
YellowBell [6d\]: cute kid ^ ^
cugel [1k\]: lol
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
mw2a [1k\]: ty
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: embarassing move
mw2a [1k\]: ? why
AroundOneD [2d\]: c17 is for root.
ThiGar [4k\]: f12
]
;B[fh]C[braincrash [?\]: u win Thi
cugel [1k\]: honte move like ?
ThiGar [4k\]: :) i guess 'k level
ThiGar [4k\]: 4k*
evanj [3d\]: splitsville?
athenus [7k\]: i guess just for different reasons :D
]
;W[mi]C[Atdawn [1d\]: they both have weak groups like no tomorrow
braincrash [?\]: kyu resist honte
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: naw, dont be so negative
SunnyD [2d\]: B has bad posture, he will have a bad back soon
USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk slams that stone down
braincrash [?\]: w has something up sleeve
athenus [7k\]: :D
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: hes angry with f12?
YellowBell [6d\]: intimidation
Chadzy [6k\]: like a boss
mw2a [1k\]: white wants to snatch that gravy up
athenus [7k\]: thanks for commenting usgo1
kostuek [3k\]: f12 was obv
braincrash [?\]: n10 seems easy
GodofGo [6d\]: i wish i was there...
YellowBell [6d\]: me too
ChipMonk [1k\]: is bill ok?!
ChipMonk [1k\]: :P
cugel [1k\]: finally w moves to make M10 look moot
athenus [7k\]: are they pros?
YellowBell [6d\]: no
mw2a [1k\]: no
cutrone [?\]: no
GodofGo [6d\]: no
braincrash [?\]: n11 sure looks like a slammer stone
athenus [7k\]: are there any pros rocking the tournamen?
remsleep [7k\]: n12 or be cut off ?
GodofGo [6d\]: yes
reticent [5k\]: n10 o10, as ladder doesn't work, how does B settle the o11 group? (or is it sacrificable?)
cugel [1k\]: this is why w did not P10 i guess
Riitoken [18k\]: so N10 or N12?
cugel [1k\]: more aji
]
;B[mj]
;W[nj]
;B[nh]C[cugel [1k\]: now let's see how G4 can help b
reticent [5k\]: answer: no it's not, m12 coming so W owes a move here. l11?
braincrash [?\]: b lifts the glove and returns the slap
martin3141 [3d\]: l11 
cugel [1k\]: M16
YellowBell [6d\]: : 0 live stream died
Riitoken [18k\]: i still like L14 
braincrash [?\]: gotta m12 to justify n11 i guess
USGO1 [-\]: yeah, he's working on it
mw2a [1k\]: charge phone, pls
Syptryn [3d\]: hmm
YellowBell [6d\]: lol
cugel [1k\]: M12 is not a shape
evanj [3d\]: his wife called and asked him to pick up milk and eggs on the way home
kostuek [3k\]: L14 somewhat dame right now
gtrabbit [4k\]: l10
GodofGo [6d\]: o.o 4 admins watching
]
;W[md]C[cugel [1k\]: yeah u better talk about the game
Atdawn [1d\]: The cops are here, spread out!
Syptryn [3d\]: l11 looks good hee for me
cugel [1k\]: and again i miss the vital point by 1 !!
reticent [5k\]: m11 l11 n13 is legal, I guess, m12 looks ugly, n13 isn't consistent with the splitting attack, so ...
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: they are checking bad manner
SunnyD [2d\]: is there a ranking of how many people admins boot?
]
;B[mc]C[YellowBell [6d\]: admins are players too
cugel [1k\]: N16 is better for fight with _N_11 not M11
Syptryn [3d\]: M11
YellowBell [6d\]: im sure there here for just about as much reason as we are (to learn) and im sure also to keep manners good
GodofGo [6d\]: l16
kostuek [3k\]: no, they just do this way to make us lazy
talife [14k?\]: is the stream gone?
mw2a [1k\]: yes
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: white being sneaky
Syptryn [3d\]: don't fee like giving balck free terriroty :)
Riitoken [18k\]: how 'bout B10
GodofGo [6d\]: yea they say off air...
mw2a [1k\]: phone died
Syptryn [3d\]: L11
waretsuyla [3k\]: center looks awful for black
cugel [1k\]: sunny sunday
Syptryn [3d\]: I can't see good reponse for black to L11
mw2a [1k\]: i don't know how to play as w
GodofGo [6d\]: n12/l11 all same
remsleep [7k\]: w likes to switch... bottom next? ;-)
mw2a [1k\]: complicated game
talife [14k?\]: wish they had egc camera...
braincrash [?\]: w needs somthing wonderful
remsleep [7k\]: has to help m8 sooner or later
cugel [1k\]: L11 shape dubious no ?
AsSeenOnTV [2d\]: this game is...complicated
braincrash [?\]: m12 and hope
YellowBell [6d\]: sounds like a go match : )
YellowBell [6d\]: XD
braincrash [?\]: good point :)
mw2a [1k\]: asseenontv, i couldn't have said it bbetter myself
kostuek [3k\]: L11 dont catch o12 seems like
]
;W[li]C[USGO1 [-\]: another loud clack
cugel [1k\]: yes 
MoonWalker [2d\]: difficult for b
mw2a [1k\]: maybe duck in room
evanj [3d\]: gotta slam that move down if you're gonna play it
cugel [1k\]: miai
evanj [3d\]: them's the rules
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: he is angry with n17
braincrash [?\]: m11 was my last choice
cugel [1k\]: any move, u help the w
Riitoken [18k\]: b had the upper middle but no longer
baltimore [3k\]: I'm streaming it from my cellphone.  i tried to turn off the screen to save battery power but it disconencted
Ops [3d\]:  i think
Ops [3d\]:  i think
baltimore [3k\]: restarting...
cugel [1k\]: it was my first =p
Ops [3d\]:  game is Over
Atdawn [1d\]: M11 was the strongest move available for W
cugel [1k\]: kyu move
Ops [3d\]:  this games Over bow
braincrash [?\]: huh?
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play K10
reticent [5k\]: ok, so hane forces o13, but then B has a problem - the cut at l9 and the weak group at o12?
Atdawn [1d\]: M12 would've been way too soft, and N12 had a wrong direction
mw2a [1k\]: baltimore, tape the phone to a hat and put it on the head of one of the players. your arm won't get sore that way
Ops [3d\]:  game is Over..
Ops [3d\]:  will redign soon
GodofGo [6d\]: redign!!!
kostuek [3k\]: we know ops
Ops [3d\]: resign *
braincrash [?\]: which one?
Nation [4k\]: resign*
remsleep [7k\]: b m12
Atdawn [1d\]: Who should resign?
GodofGo [6d\]: you
reticent [5k\]: ops: for the benefit of us weaker players, care to explain your reasoning a little? we'd appreciate it!
Atdawn [1d\]: Me?
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
Atdawn [1d\]: But I'm not even playing atm
mw2a [1k\]: troll doesn't say who should resign
]
;B[ki]
;W[lh]C[Smochi [2d\]: both players should resign at the same time
Ops [3d\]:  black will....
Nation [4k\]: ew, dont like that shape
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
braincrash [?\]: o14 
Atdawn [1d\]: O14?
Ops [3d\]:  thr black will ...
reticent [5k\]: ok, that I missed - what was wrong with n13 (which looks like better shape?)
]
;B[nf]C[Ops [3d\]:  the black will be...
Beeko [2k\]: If this game recieves 400 observers i will take off my shirt
Ops [3d\]:  RESIGN
Smochi [2d\]: n13 o13 is trouble
Ops [3d\]:  soon
Angelic: please dont
greenkite [3k\]: cant believe this is 7d game
mw2a [1k\]: ops, stop flooding
Atdawn [1d\]: reticent, b would have good forcing moves against N13
]
;W[kh]C[YellowBell [6d\]: ok lets not go more then 400 observers
reticent [5k\]: atdawn: right
USGO1 [-\]: still slamming them down
reticent [5k\]: thank you!
Atdawn [1d\]: Now B is left with bad aji there. Connection isn't totally secure
yorugua [10k\]: video is back
Nation [4k\]: hmm
Nathan [13k\]: can someone send link to video?
golgo13 [8k\]: where is the video?
GodofGo [6d\]: link again?
Nathan [13k\]: sorry
int3r [4k\]: whats with the live stream?
ChipMonk [1k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Beeko [2k\]: lol
braincrash [?\]: l10 only choice i guess
Nation [4k\]: ty chip
fehler [5k?\]: white better
kylefones [25k?\]: hm
Ops [3d\]:  not better
phong [1k\]: Beeko, i wish you're a young woman
Ops [3d\]:  game is Over
Beeko [2k\]: trololo
braincrash [?\]: u said already
ChipMonk [1k\]: died again
ChipMonk [1k\]: ><
Ops [3d\]:  hopeless 4 Black
yorugua [10k\]: ohoh, phone died again :)
ChipMonk [1k\]: nvm
yorugua [10k\]: ohh, back again
braincrash [?\]: wrong again ops
kostuek [3k\]: 3d strong at trolling
Ops [3d\]:  i am not 3d
Karcusrd [7k\]: hey Erogotv patch over to ustream
kostuek [3k\]: 5d?
ppkp: b resigned
Riitoken [18k\]: /?
Ops [3d\]:  i got 5d in here
golgo13 [8k\]: was that blair witch project
Ops [3d\]:  8-)
]
;B[kk]C[GodofGo [6d\]: lol
]
;W[kl]C[Atdawn [1d\]: Strong. My playing account is only 4d
cugel [1k\]: will O14 be enough ?
Atdawn [1d\]: nope
ppkp: b resigned
martin3141 [3d\]: no way
martin3141 [3d\]: really?
yorugua [10k\]: no
YellowBell [6d\]: no
mw2a [1k\]: no
horacelamb [3d\]: no
ppkp: yes
GodofGo [6d\]: Ops, but u lost to 3d before
kylefones [26k?\]: haha
cugel [1k\]: why resign ??
YellowBell [6d\]: its just a troll
justdidit [1k\]: Sorry if already asked, but have this players kgs accounts/names?
YellowBell [6d\]: yes
GodofGo [6d\]: billlin
YellowBell [6d\]: billlin and chunga
ppkp: no
mw2a [1k\]: bill lin is billlin on kgs
]
;B[ik]C[justdidit [1k\]: thanks
YellowBell [6d\]: and dae hyuk is chunga
KyrieSwagg [-\]: game over??
fehler [5k?\]: 15 O
YellowBell [6d\]: no
mw2a [1k\]: ty, i asked earlier but no one cared
Ops [3d\]:  10 h
Ops [3d\]:  10 h
Ops [3d\]:  game is over
remsleep [7k\]: w o15?
kaketoe [11k\]: ...
horacelamb [3d\]: w is only 6d on KGS?
YellowBell [6d\]: i said who dae hyk was earlier like 4 times > . >
horacelamb [3d\]: b I mean
fehler [5k?\]: zes
YellowBell [6d\]: no
KyrieSwagg [-\]: lol
justdidit [1k\]: levels are aga i suppose?
YellowBell [6d\]: bill is 6d at blitz
braincrash [?\]: o15 
Atdawn [1d\]: I don't believe I'm about to say this but... Could we please focus on the game, please?
mw2a [1k\]: mods, please remove ops
YellowBell [6d\]: 7d-8d in slow games
horacelamb [3d\]: huh
horacelamb [3d\]: idk
fehler [5k?\]: white 15O
]
;W[jl]C[YellowBell [6d\]: billlin is his blitz account
Ops [3d\]: hm
golgo13 [8k\]: o9 stones not that stable
YellowBell [6d\]: his slow game account is 7d and really close to 8d
horacelamb [3d\]: what's his non-blitz account?
YellowBell [6d\]: i cant tell : S
horacelamb [3d\]: yeah, yeah
Ops [3d\]:  a little chance 4 black
GodofGo [6d\]: does he use it often?
YellowBell [6d\]: he doesnt want me to tell but anyway chunga is 8d kgs
kostuek [3k\]: b got at least attacked
YellowBell [6d\]: yeah he uses his slow game account more often then he does his blitz account
Riitoken [18k\]: b must play K9
ppkp: b resigned
evanj [3d\]: no he didn't
kylefones [26k?\]: remoce ppkp pls
mw2a [1k\]: ppkp. shut up
braincrash [?\]: ignore guests
Riitoken [18k\]: is there a way to ignore certain chatters?
Beeko [2k\]: Jli is the best player on kgs ;)
]
;B[ji]C[ChipMonk [1k\]: censor button
Baldanders [6k\]: yes, you can censor people
reticent [5k\]: riitoken: right-click, censor
Riitoken [18k\]: k thx
Atdawn [1d\]: riitoken, yeah, censor them on the nick list on the right
ChipMonk [1k\]: right click on the player in the list, censor
cugel [1k\]: b is trying to cvapture the tengen  !:!
]
;W[kd]C[Beeko [2k\]: censor yourself
Ops [3d\]:  omg
Nation [4k\]: ...lol
GodofGo [6d\]: yeah i got it right
Nation [4k\]: hmm
Ops [3d\]:  white did misread
cugel [1k\]: difficult for w
cugel [1k\]: for b too
remsleep [7k\]: o14 not connected out...
golgo13 [8k\]: there should b an options to censor all guest in a busy chat/kib rooms
ppkp: this doesnt work
justdidit [1k\]: w afraid of K12?
mw2a [1k\]: i agree w/ goigo
YellowBell [6d\]: thatd be a cool feature golgo13
cugel [1k\]: yes, but off topic
talife [14k?\]: can we get jeon-korondo back?
kostuek [3k\]: just switch back to attack o12
cugel [1k\]: ...
GodofGo [6d\]: he prob should have protected the k12 part
mw2a [1k\]: korondo is playing at egc
GodofGo [6d\]: yes we know that
ppkp: this is the wrong direction
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play B10
globax [3d\]: p15 and k17 miai, b in trouble
cugel [1k\]: b K13 immediate
Karcusrd [7k\]: nice glaring game
GodofGo [6d\]: no, he is trying to cut the o14
braincrash [?\]: o16 has possiblilities
mw2a [1k\]: b10 absurd
Atdawn [1d\]: P13 now?
remsleep [7k\]: p16 better?
globax [3d\]: in p15, then k17
justdidit [1k\]: L16 proposing an exchange?
cugel [1k\]: K12 hurt w
globax [3d\]: if*
]
;B[kf]C[ppkp: tenuki
kostuek [3k\]: yay
Riitoken [18k\]: finally!!!
cugel [1k\]: wow
Atdawn [1d\]: Strong move
ThiGar [4k\]: splendid!
braincrash [?\]: hamstrung
remsleep [7k\]: w m14
Riitoken [18k\]: things would be much diff. if that had been played before J12
Nation [4k\]: very very interesting
hyuend [2k\]: he left
ppkp: tenuki
Atdawn [1d\]: I  dislike this sort of moves because during slow games, you need to actually read them out to make sure they work
cugel [1k\]: lol
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: severe
justdidit [1k\]: b losing opportunity to push in K12 maybe
cugel [1k\]: u mean you're lazy 
Atdawn [1d\]: These have potential to blow up  in a splendid way if opponent can min-max his way out of it
YellowBell [6d\]: i love these type of games
ppkp: me too
YellowBell [6d\]: these are the best kind ^ ^
ppkp: i luv them
braincrash [?\]: not easy to read this out
ppkp: they really r
cugel [1k\]: minmax ? lol
kaketoe [11k\]: seems ver interesting, but i don't think i've gotten any of it so far ;)
ThiGar [4k\]: immediate threat is k12 connecting everything
remsleep [7k\]: only moves are on line 14
Karcusrd [7k\]: nice Go equipment
Atdawn [1d\]: cugel, like, who's not lazy? Reading is annoying and difficult
Riitoken [18k\]: w to play JK 15
ppkp: yea
cugel [1k\]: i like it
ppkp: so diff
kostuek [3k\]: this is a brain broking position
ppkp: it hurts
golgo13 [8k\]: m14
ppkp: great
cugel [1k\]: good
Nation [4k\]: ooo
kostuek [3k\]: not yet
justdidit [1k\]: now?
SunnyD [2d\]: comment or review?
remsleep [7k\]: or maybe wedge p13
braincrash [?\]: k13 or o15 
Riitoken [18k\]: the L16 stones die otherwise
globax [3d\]: k12 or m14^^
ppkp: w tenuki
]
;W[lf]C[golgo13 [8k\]: yes!
globax [3d\]: :)
ppkp: no
golgo13 [8k\]: i got it first  :)
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play K15
remsleep [7k\]: b p16 now maybe
globax [3d\]: m15 to save both sides^^
braincrash [?\]: ppkp ur boring
justdidit [1k\]: it s my first one on my censor list
]
;B[le]C[ppkp: b resign soon
globax [3d\]: :)
AsSeenOnTV [2d\]: sure
cugel [1k\]: added him
Riitoken [18k\]: good call gx
evanj [3d\]: wow this is compllicated
]
;W[ke]C[Syndus [10k\]: how would you estimete the score for this game?
Syndus [10k\]: *...mate
braincrash [?\]: k12 
Karcusrd [7k\]: lol sound like one person in that whole room
]
;B[lg]C[kaketoe [11k\]: 1-1 ;p
cugel [1k\]: i don't estimate score during a fight
talife [14k?\]: where is EGR?
justdidit [1k\]: i think everyone will be strongly connected at the end, so nothing special
golgo13 [8k\]: n13
]
;W[kg]
;B[mf]
;W[jf]C[ppkp: b res
USGO1 [-\]: he slamps that stone down
USGO1 [-\]: *slams
kostuek [3k\]: review? they still playing
]
;B[ld]C[ppkp: ko
Karcusrd [7k\]: slammy and slappy 
Z0mbies [5k\]: can review while the game is still going
Z0mbies [5k\]: in another room
Z0mbies [5k\]: lol
Riitoken [18k\]: w to play J17
ppkp: big ko
]
;W[lf]
;B[jd]C[ppkp: b just doesnt hae points
Riitoken [18k\]: nice
cugel [1k\]: well, great for w
golgo13 [8k\]: n13
remsleep [7k\]: w take
Riitoken [18k\]: w to play P18
golgo13 [8k\]: then w can play o13 or n15
cugel [1k\]: next business, not P18, thinking about terr terr only, but bottom fight
]
;W[ii]C[Beeko [2k\]: overplay?
cugel [1k\]: why ?
Rudi [1d\]: cutting
braincrash [?\]: force before defend
remsleep [7k\]: b cut if ignore
cugel [1k\]: good move
Karcusrd [7k\]: that is nice threat
Riitoken [18k\]: white damages b shape
cugel [1k\]: yes
ThiGar [4k\]: g9
remsleep [7k\]: but  j10 looks ok answer
golgo13 [8k\]: b can escape through h7 area
Karcusrd [7k\]: k10
JIeBuc [19k\]: k10?
kaketoe [11k\]: why not k9?
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play J10
cugel [1k\]: K10 bad shape
cugel [1k\]: it's K9 or J10
SeiChan [4k\]: h8
AroundOneD [2d\]: j10 connection
Riitoken [18k\]: K10 very bad shape
Syptryn [3d\]: K-10 looks bes for me
braincrash [?\]: k9 
Syptryn [3d\]: err I mean j10
Karcusrd [7k\]: \\k10 kill all B
cugel [1k\]: agree
ramenGo [2k\]: k9?
kaketoe [11k\]: k9 seems nice because of the lower left?
YellowBell [6d\]: i was going to ask what you were saying sypt
cugel [1k\]: J10 safe connect
Riitoken [18k\]: w K9 is big threat
Syptryn [3d\]: k9  possible
Syptryn [3d\]: haha
YellowBell [6d\]: i was gonna ask your thoughts on k10 because i cant see any good outcome with k10
AroundOneD [2d\]: but need find 2 eye place
]
;B[ij]C[Riitoken [18k\]: gotta grow JL10
]
;W[gk]C[Riitoken [18k\]: yep
Syptryn [3d\]: no k10 is terrible :)
Karcusrd [7k\]: now cant
Syptryn [3d\]: h9 
cugel [1k\]: buy, b still has rather poor shape
Riitoken [18k\]: now b H8
YellowBell [6d\]: yeah k10 would lose a lot
braincrash [?\]: b dies or close
Mongoose11 [8k\]: H11
Syptryn [3d\]: h-8 to die :P
Syptryn [3d\]: h9  might be best
Syptryn [3d\]: even if shape looks crap
Riitoken [18k\]: w H8 ishuge
]
;B[hk]
;W[hm]C[USGO1 [-\]: and he slams that one down hard
YellowBell [6d\]: bill might die here :' (
]
;B[gl]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: i think W  is trying to kill stuff
braincrash [?\]: no eye
cugel [1k\]: lovely
Riitoken [18k\]: G8??
kaketoe [11k\]: hmm
remsleep [7k\]: nice
kaketoe [11k\]: i am missing something
Riitoken [18k\]: way too small
Mongoose11 [8k\]: I suspect we'll find some reason to call this tesuji later
Ootakamoku [1d\]: g8 gives forcing moves in b10 area I think
cugel [1k\]: F8 ?
braincrash [?\]: likely
eki [1d\]: f8?
kaketoe [11k\]: why can't he make an eye in the center and one in the upper left?
]
;W[el]C[cugel [1k\]: wow
braincrash [?\]: no eye in center
evanj [3d\]: powerful
cugel [1k\]: w very relaxed
kaketoe [11k\]: k9?
Syptryn [3d\]: black will lve
Newstyle [4k\]: k9 -1 eye:)
Syptryn [3d\]: b11 
yorugua [10k\]: l11
Syptryn [3d\]: but h-8 first
Syptryn [3d\]: or white too thick outside
cugel [1k\]: yes live, but if b helps w too much, bye bye bottom side
yorugua [10k\]: K9 l11, no eye
alter [1k\]: k9 is one gote eye, but black need 2 eyes
remsleep [7k\]: c14 later if need
MXHero [3d\]: g3 is starting to look dangerous for b
]
;B[fl]
;W[ek]C[cugel [1k\]: like if b insinst
]
;B[hl]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black should be fine
cugel [1k\]: if inisists like this, H4 is a move
evanj [3d\]: g5!
Karcusrd [7k\]: E4
AroundOneD [2d\]: b ok 
remsleep [7k\]: done. cant attack more
Ootakamoku [1d\]: h6 bad?
Riitoken [18k\]: are the middle black stones dead???
Syptryn [3d\]: if white doesn't move bot now, black can sepnt 1 move in defence
Riitoken [18k\]: I can't tell
AroundOneD [2d\]: w not strong around
remsleep [7k\]: w too weak to continue now
Syptryn [3d\]: gah Brazil internet sux
]
;W[me]
;B[kf]
;W[jk]C[Syptryn [3d\]: h4 
cugel [1k\]: cool
]
;B[jj]
;W[lf]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: there is a stange envelope on the table
]
;B[lc]C[remsleep [7k\]: b hane e7
Karcusrd [7k\]: ugly Ko
cugel [1k\]: it's w move
globax [3d\]: m4 looks posible
]
;W[fd]C[kaketoe [11k\]: can't black play around q7 or something to gain in the lower right?
cugel [1k\]: !
braincrash [?\]: p7 
compendium [?\]: w needs to fix his weakness
alter [1k\]: why not n13 ?
cugel [1k\]: O7 maybe a b move
]
;B[nm]C[kaketoe [11k\]: :)
braincrash [?\]: missed
MXHero [3d\]: nice :))
JIeBuc [19k\]: n13 too small
Riitoken [18k\]: i like that
]
;W[nl]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: that is pro
cugel [1k\]: now's the time :-)
alter [1k\]: n13 seems sente too me, and not small as it threats r12
MXHero [3d\]: w might want p13 instead
cugel [1k\]: w been spending so much to help top, C17, F16, look rendundant
Syptryn [3d\]: j7 
kaketoe [11k\]: i guess my intuition is not all bad, i can see how q7 would've been not so efficient though ;p
remsleep [7k\]: take ko
braincrash [?\]: sente is not same as good
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play NP 7
cugel [1k\]: yeah kake, attack from a distance generally better
]
;B[rf]C[Riitoken [18k\]: weird move
lance123 [-\]: black win
kerf [1k\]: n7 L9
cugel [1k\]: O7 is ear cleaning tesuji
]
;W[re]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black probab;y wants to prevent o15 aji in sente
lance123 [-\]: lol rito weird move?
evanj [3d\]: exactly
Riitoken [18k\]: just unexpected 
lance123 [-\]: any move is unexpected at ur level o.o
AroundOneD [2d\]: j7
Riitoken [18k\]: which is why I'm not 7d
kaketoe [11k\]: aren't you kind of used to seeing the unexpected happen ;)? i know i am
cugel [1k\]: this is to remove sequences like Q12
Riitoken [18k\]: hey hold on ... I've predicted 4 moves correctly this game
kaketoe [11k\]: haha
lance123 [-\]: haha
globax [3d\]: k6
lance123 [-\]: congrats 18k
kaketoe [11k\]: only because you have tried to predict 200 ;p
Riitoken [18k\]: and not just captures
remsleep [7k\]: p15 maybe
Riitoken [18k\]: :) ... yes u r correct
MXHero [3d\]: the unexpected happens every game; both players expect to win but only one does
kerf [1k\]: n7 m9*, i can't read coords :)
Riitoken [18k\]: it's fun to try though
kerf [1k\]: so n7 is not great idea
Syptryn [3d\]: j-7 looks large, as does b-11
cugel [1k\]: to remove S12 defense for w
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play S13
cugel [1k\]: J7 F6 about miai
lance123 [-\]: wut is there any difference in 18k and 1 7k o.o just wondering?
cugel [1k\]: B11 i don't see the point ?
lance123 [-\]: just like 7k and 8k
lance123 [-\]: or 8d and 9d is there much difference?
]
;B[mm]C[Hollumber [1k\]: lance, bigger diff. between 18and 17k, than 7k and 8k
Syptryn [3d\]: b11 is huge
Olmi [2d\]: one 1d
alter [1k\]: 8d 9d is big difference
AroundOneD [2d\]: j7 is active; f6 is passive
cugel [1k\]: ah huge in terr terr ?
Syptryn [3d\]: ya
Hollumber [1k\]: 8d and 9d is small diff.
alter [1k\]: kyu difference is nothing
Mongoose11 [8k\]: most players move through those ranks too quickly for them to have a really distinct definition
bananas [1k\]: w can cut b with o15?
cugel [1k\]: you think this is endgame ?
bananas [1k\]: no?
MXHero [3d\]: i disagree holl, 18k and 17k are basically the same rank
AroundOneD [2d\]: that's the difference
Syptryn [3d\]: aso affects eye space
cugel [1k\]: boot the rank trolls please
braincrash [?\]: h4 u know u want it
alter [1k\]: nothe probability of winiing with 1d difference is much lowert than 1kyu idfference
MXHero [3d\]: hmm n7 is not sente but looks amazing anyway
ThiGar [4k\]: getting warmer for the o8 group!
cugel [1k\]: would w B11 now ?
cugel [1k\]: i don't think so
Riitoken [18k\]: w to play M5
Olmi [2d\]: l6 next for b?
AroundOneD [2d\]: n7 also active
Riitoken [18k\]: gotta poke the lower right or b wins
Blicero [1d\]: not sente for the cut anyway
]
;W[ne]C[bananas [1k\]: :DD
Syptryn [3d\]: here we go
cugel [1k\]: ok lol
braincrash [?\]: the hammer!
kaketoe [11k\]: what just happened =\\ ?
AroundOneD [2d\]: ko
Syptryn [3d\]: black defend teh aji partially with s-14 though
cugel [1k\]: tesuji
kaketoe [11k\]: why?
esko [2k\]: w wants o13
braincrash [?\]: bolt from the sky
]
;B[kf]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: w wants o13
Syptryn [3d\]: he can sacrfice N14 stones if need be
cugel [1k\]: can you see relationship of w group, and bottom b side, now
evanj [3d\]: sacrifice them to what end? still cut
horacelamb [3d\]: yeah
braincrash [?\]: k15 
USGO1 [-\]: Dae Hyuk now leans in and is sitting on the edge of his seat
braincrash [?\]: maybe not k15 
horacelamb [3d\]: haha nice play-by-play action!
MXHero [3d\]: o15 is so cool
Riitoken [18k\]: he's min-max'ing
horacelamb [3d\]: yeah I didn't see o155
horacelamb [3d\]: 15*
ThiGar [4k\]: Great to have the game, the images and the pro comments in 3 different windows!
kaketoe [11k\]: i don't get any of this :)
kaketoe [11k\]: why did he do this now?
MXHero [3d\]: now we actually see why w didn't play n13 earlier
cugel [1k\]: it's about the center group safety
Riitoken [18k\]: I wish I could see the stream but alas no login for the site
YellowBell [6d\]: register then
cugel [1k\]: w trying to defend actively
braincrash [?\]: they r just making it up kake, mostly bluffing
GodofGo [6d\]: cr8 one
evanj [3d\]: then make one, it's free
Syptryn [3d\]: black can
yorugua [10k\]: you can register
Syptryn [3d\]: p15 
remsleep [7k\]: clocks ?
cugel [1k\]: time for tsing tao :)
Newstyle [4k\]: q3 or q4?
MXHero [3d\]: kaketoe, w is fighting a ko here in order to cut apart b's o12 group
gustavokim: habla en español
Syptryn [3d\]: if he pushes to save the group by sacrfice
remsleep [7k\]: time check?
AroundOneD [2d\]: p15 no good
kaketoe [11k\]: i see
Syptryn [3d\]: so all good, no death
cugel [1k\]: has to be like K5 :(
ramenGo [2k\]: w m13?
MXHero [3d\]: does w have to play s11? :(
ThiGar [4k\]: Those navy-blue tablecloths have a soothing effect, don't they?
braincrash [?\]: h11 
kaketoe [11k\]: yeah i was thinking h10 or 11
Hollumber [1k\]: how will white live in the center?
cugel [1k\]: yeah good decor
AroundOneD [2d\]: k15 for p15, without any consequence
cugel [1k\]: and nice to see the ppl
hyuend [2k\]: k6
]
;W[jn]C[Mongoose11 [8k\]: connect to corner, plus eye at E15 if necessray
cugel [1k\]: good call
cugel [1k\]: i miss by 1 again
Syptryn [3d\]: hmm
hyuend [2k\]: i saw from the vidoe xD
Riitoken [18k\]: not agressive enough imo
kaketoe [11k\]: eh
kaketoe [11k\]: what if black just k15 now?
cugel [1k\]: K6 is agressive
Syptryn [3d\]: capture is large
Syptryn [3d\]: about 20 pts
Syptryn [3d\]: I think
Riitoken [18k\]: not as aggressive as M5
horacelamb [3d\]: there's a video feed?
MXHero [3d\]: m5 would probably end up dying
Brilliant [6k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Karcusrd [7k\]: Q15 i like my 7k moves
kaketoe [11k\]: so k15 reasonable here?
USGO1 [-\]: The noise level in the room is increasing as many more spectators keep coming in and out the door
horacelamb [3d\]: thanks brilliant
Riitoken [18k\]: I've got black leading by 9 pts
ThiGar [4k\]: take the ko: k15
braincrash [?\]: k15 ur not getting a better chance
cugel [1k\]: probably
remsleep [7k\]: now w can almost start attacking center again
Syptryn [3d\]: N6 huge too
Riitoken [18k\]: b to play M5
cugel [1k\]: N6, lol
braincrash [?\]: n6 ?
USGO1 [-\]: We're sitting next to a floor to celing glass wall next to the sidewalk entrance to the building with lots of noisy foot traffic
Syptryn [3d\]: errr mistead
Syptryn [3d\]: aha
Syptryn [3d\]: m5 
remsleep [7k\]: although m5 does threaten big banking...
kaketoe [11k\]: where is white going to live though?
braincrash [?\]: no undo syptryn!
cugel [1k\]: this starts good eyeshape
USGO1 [-\]: The players don't seem distracted by the noise at all
cugel [1k\]: i guess it's a good ambiance
remsleep [7k\]: m5 and k4 banks some big territory
YellowBell [6d\]: im sure its more soothing
Syptryn [3d\]: if black does respond bot, white can probably make life or at leats ko with random stuff like o3 
YellowBell [6d\]: normal noises are nice to hear if its too quiet the smallest sound could unsettle you
wry [3d\]: h9 still not alive, gives l8 group way more chances to live
Anaxagoras [11k\]: where are videos?
cugel [1k\]: yes, silence could be tense
kaketoe [11k\]: is it unrealistic to think k8 can die?
remsleep [7k\]: but b center is not alive yet
kaketoe [11k\]: true
kaketoe [11k\]: i see
Syptryn [3d\]: white won't die
cugel [1k\]: with the ko on, w can't die
kaketoe [11k\]: pl
kaketoe [11k\]: *ok
remsleep [7k\]: b around f6 
braincrash [?\]: k15 and coast to win
Syptryn [3d\]: ko doesn't affect life and death of rightgroup
MXHero [3d\]: if only it were so simple, braincrash :)
remsleep [7k\]: f6 area connects out and attacks w
Syptryn [3d\]: f-6 does seem nice
remsleep [7k\]: even attack c10 a little as well
braincrash [?\]: my strat is, if its too complicated then ignore it
Riitoken [18k\]: yes F6 would be HUGE for b
Karcusrd [7k\]: crazy endgame on the other table
kaketoe [11k\]: h11 is one eye in sente, yes?
AroundOneD [2d\]: ignore
Zorba [5d\]: white ideas is to follow with F6 ?
kaketoe [11k\]: hm?
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;B[ho]
;W[lf]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: g6 for f6
braincrash [?\]: h11 f11 
remsleep [7k\]: ah
Atdawn [1d\]: SE rocks
MXHero [3d\]: h5 is neat
braincrash [?\]: big sigh
Atdawn [1d\]: I mean, look at the accuracy of the estimation
AroundOneD [2d\]: f6 is not that scary
Syptryn [3d\]: black play p15  emrgency move now?
remsleep [7k\]: big bank threat plus atatck
kaketoe [11k\]: thanks baincrash, sorry bad reading ;p
MXHero [3d\]: lol atdawn, that's awesome
Syptryn [3d\]: no threats are big enough, except possibly n8 
]
;B[mg]C[Syptryn [3d\]: but that threat hurts black slightly
braincrash [?\]: can b give up r12 and win?
]
;W[pe]
;B[kf]C[coldnight [1k\]: q15  weird
Nation [4k\]: Jeez that's alotof ppl watching
Syptryn [3d\]: woa
Syptryn [3d\]: black serious
]
;W[hn]C[Syptryn [3d\]: capture
fly [1d\]: b plans to kill them all!
braincrash [?\]: death spiral
AroundOneD [2d\]: now the ko big for b, small for w
noobienoob [3k\]: greedy
coldnight [1k\]: why give black extra ko move with q15 
Syptryn [3d\]: massive ko for black now
Atdawn [1d\]: Answer: Take the ko?
braincrash [?\]: i told him he wasnt going to get a better chance
remsleep [7k\]: threatens w f6 
fly [1d\]: cold: b can't kill teh upper right w group without q15
Syptryn [3d\]: I thought he was going to P=15
Syptryn [3d\]: give up a few stones
Syptryn [3d\]: and call it a day
noobienoob [3k\]: lol
Atdawn [1d\]: K15 the only choice!
cugel [1k\]: b should fight, got progit on side already
remsleep [7k\]: i want f6 again to connect out
bananas [1k\]: b can p16 as a t no?
Tetriste [1d\]: m14 not important?
Riitoken [18k\]: feels like b has a free move here
braincrash [?\]: f6 
AroundOneD [2d\]: f6
JIeBuc [19k\]: f6 good
evanj [3d\]: um
fly [1d\]: n8?
kaketoe [11k\]: what i meant by h11 was, h11, f11, k12
Zorba [5d\]: the problem is that K15 is not sente
kaketoe [11k\]: but i guess i'm still misreading
AroundOneD [2d\]: b has p15 and o16 twice must-answer ko materials
braincrash [?\]: n8 n9 
MXHero [3d\]: playing p15 is too painful imo
Riitoken [18k\]: which is strong for b F6 or M5
Tiesto [4d\]: its a gold star party in here
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;B[je]C[braincrash [?\]: k15 is best but hes resisted it so far
evanj [3d\]: here we go
remsleep [7k\]: w f6
Beeko [2k\]: bOOM!
MXHero [3d\]: f16 looks perfect now
kaketoe [11k\]: still not?
brooklyn [3d\]: get ready for a full on maynerd
evanj [3d\]: :D
Tetriste [1d\]: not a party without BigDoug, Tiesto
kaketoe [11k\]: h11, f11, k12? what is my mistake?
braincrash [?\]: p6 
Tiesto [4d\]: oo dont say his name
Tetriste [1d\]: hahaha¸
]
;W[fn]C[Syptryn [3d\]: o3 looks good
Syptryn [3d\]: white should be strong enough
Syptryn [3d\]: to do that
pierone1 [1d\]: where is ti possible to see the results?
Beeko [2k\]: KGS should add an explosion feature after a stone is dead
MXHero [3d\]: f6 is so extremely good
Tiesto [4d\]: like fly or die
Riitoken [18k\]: now b to play M5
]
;B[hi]C[remsleep [7k\]: b b16
kaketoe [11k\]: !!
kaketoe [11k\]: told you
cugel [1k\]: good reading
kaketoe [11k\]: haha thanks 
kaketoe [11k\]: finally read something right ;p
hyuend [2k\]: b keep looking at w xD
MXHero [3d\]: good job, but one thing: this is an eye in gote
kaketoe [11k\]: not because of k12 right?
]
;W[hh]C[kaketoe [11k\]: right
kaketoe [11k\]: i see
braincrash [?\]: lets play, who dies first
MXHero [3d\]: but still, good job :)
remsleep [7k\]: w d12?
Riitoken [18k\]: F11
evanj [3d\]: no, d13
Tetriste [1d\]: none dies
Tetriste [1d\]: everyone happy
AroundOneD [2d\]: h11?
AroundOneD [2d\]: why not j14
Imp20 [3k\]: w not too happy
cugel [1k\]: no, w not so happy
evanj [3d\]: j14 j13
MXHero [3d\]: j14 only captures the k14 stone
braincrash [?\]: b has too much if nothing dies
AroundOneD [2d\]: at least a ko
evanj [3d\]: no, not j13
Beeko [2k\]: Looking good for black
evanj [3d\]: j14 h13
Riitoken [18k\]: bF11 followed by wM5
JIeBuc [19k\]: f11?
AroundOneD [2d\]: j13 for h13
madigouf [1d\]: F11 now, no ?
evanj [3d\]: don't see how b can not play f11
JIeBuc [19k\]: w f11
braincrash [?\]: b16 
Syptryn [3d\]: f11 looks very subvmissive
fly [1d\]: one eye in gote is often not such a great plan
Tiesto [4d\]: f11 only move
MXHero [3d\]: f11 is a whole eye in reverse sente
evanj [3d\]: reverse sente is huge
ThiGar [4k\]: urgent moves first
Tetriste [1d\]: yeah, w will f11 otherwise
Riitoken [18k\]: F11 adds lots of strength to the C12 stone
fly [1d\]: ah
Syptryn [3d\]: 1 pt reverse sente?
braincrash [?\]: f11 b11 
evanj [3d\]: one eye reverse sente
MXHero [3d\]: not 1 point, more like 70 :)
AroundOneD [2d\]: now need find another eye
evanj [3d\]: you think b has two eyes on the edge?
Riitoken [18k\]: but M5 is bigger
Tiesto [4d\]: f11 70 pts reverse sente
braincrash [?\]: one is not enough
Syptryn [3d\]: b11 may be bigger
braincrash [?\]: lol tiesto
AroundOneD [2d\]: h11 passive
Hollumber [1k\]: lol teiest
Hollumber [1k\]: *tiesto
fly [1d\]: if h11, where is the other eye?
AroundOneD [2d\]: no good enough
remsleep [7k\]: b has to defend d12
AroundOneD [2d\]: not
fly [1d\]: sorry, f11*
cugel [1k\]: B15 still sente ?
evanj [3d\]: well
Syptryn [3d\]: c13 will be very painful for black soo
evanj [3d\]: that's why i think b is about to resign
Syptryn [3d\]: can black make an eye on left side if he f-11?
evanj [3d\]: f11 c13 looks problematic
remsleep [7k\]: ah nvm
Tetriste [1d\]: tiesto tetiso tetriso tetristo tetriste :O our names looks alike
AroundOneD [2d\]: before h11, b should think he can make 2 eyes
cugel [1k\]: B11 is not the w way ?
MXHero [3d\]: well f6 is just ridiculously good, we can all agree
evanj [3d\]: yes
Tiesto [4d\]: i think you evolved from me
TurtleDove [5k\]: B16 playable ?
evanj [3d\]: and k15 was perhaps inadvisable
cugel [1k\]: i mean B12
Syptryn [3d\]: b11 I think
kaketoe [11k\]: what if k13?
Riitoken [18k\]: B10 is better than B11 but M5 is the stongest move for either side right now
fly [1d\]: what happens if b f7?
remsleep [7k\]: maybe back to m5 now?
MXHero [3d\]: but o15 is just ridiculously awesome, that's where it all started
Karcusrd [7k\]: W m5
Tetriste [1d\]: b11 is cool
Tetriste [1d\]: I like it
evanj [3d\]: b11? for whom, when?
Tetriste [1d\]: black now
Karcusrd [7k\]: or Q7
kaketoe [11k\]: what happens if black k13?
Riitoken [18k\]: M5 is worth at least 7 pts for black right now
horacelamb [3d\]: B11 FOR BLACK?
MXHero [3d\]: it bears repeating that f16 is perfect
horacelamb [3d\]: - caps
horacelamb [3d\]: i dont' think that works
cugel [1k\]: u cannot really allow F11 is not sure of 2 eyes
evanj [3d\]: then f11
ToDie [2d\]: k13 k12 - nothing
horacelamb [3d\]: yeah f11 and then b is in trouble
Tetriste [1d\]: or maybe b16
remsleep [7k\]: wait. maybe d12 need defense against w c13
evanj [3d\]: b11 f11 g11 c13
horacelamb [3d\]: yeah
kaketoe [11k\]: ?
Mdx [5k\]: so many question
evanj [3d\]: it is very confusing to try to keep up with both the game and the commentary on the game
Mdx [5k\]: only resign answer all of them D:
evanj [3d\]: i think b lost
evanj [3d\]: it's as simple as that
remsleep [7k\]: i think w c13 cuts if b tenuki now
evanj [3d\]: needed to answer the threat
cugel [1k\]: that's why u should read the commentary afterwards
Mdx [5k\]: b had an earth attack
kaketoe [11k\]: black k13, w k12, black j14, white h13, hmm guess it's useless
Tetriste [1d\]: b16
Riitoken [18k\]: who gains more from M5 b or w?
cugel [1k\]: C15 ? :(
ThiGar [4k\]: reading g14
Mdx [5k\]: riitoken, that just not important right now
Tetriste [1d\]: c15 not even a peep XD
braincrash [?\]: m5 is out of focus
fly [1d\]: so does F7 help?
cugel [1k\]: yeah it fails
evanj [3d\]: b is driving 80 mph off a cliff and you're asking what radio station he' slistening to
]
;B[bi]C[cugel [1k\]: ok
]
;W[fi]C[Syptryn [3d\]: I still can't see life
Tetriste [1d\]: I think I prefer b16 to b11, not sure
evanj [3d\]: give up the center?
cugel [1k\]: u have your "huge" 2 points
Syptryn [3d\]: but its blacks best choice
kaketoe [11k\]: if you die, better make sure there is good background music
]
;B[gi]C[braincrash [?\]: b10 
braincrash [?\]: noooo
evanj [3d\]: huh
Tetriste [1d\]: b15?
Mdx [5k\]: resigning
MXHero [3d\]: b would resign before (or after) playing g11
remsleep [7k\]: w has to defend now
Imp20 [3k\]: w c13
fly [1d\]: maybe b sees a way to make life?
cugel [1k\]: bluff ?
lockelaton [3k\]: not yet
MXHero [3d\]: or, b would resign before omitting g11, or after playing it :)
Tetriste [1d\]: what if black plays b16 instead of b11
kaketoe [11k\]: black can cut using k13, no?
Imp20 [3k\]: no
kaketoe [11k\]: k
yorugua [10k\]: can't cut
Mdx [5k\]: k13 k12 
fly [1d\]: k13 kills one stone
Imp20 [3k\]: k13 would only capture the k14 stone
yorugua [10k\]: captures a stone, but doesn't cut
calife [4d\]: d13 and b15
Ftsprt [1k\]: d12 d13 d11 e13 c14 c13 b15 
Riitoken [18k\]: so can b make 2 eyes on the upper left?
lockelaton [3k\]: k13 cant cut
googlebear [3k\]: on the other hand   w cannot cut with d12 either
kaketoe [11k\]: i thought because of g14
Mdx [5k\]: Riitoken, it seems quite dificult to do that
evanj [3d\]: g14 avails naught
Imp20 [3k\]: w can cut with c13 b13 d12 sequence
Imp20 [3k\]: but b won't submit that way
Ftsprt [1k\]: c13 d13 
cugel [1k\]: C13 b can resist
justdidit [1k\]: yes
cugel [1k\]: let him find it
ThiGar [4k\]: on the stream, Bill lin stares around e7
remsleep [7k\]: b h14
]
;W[be]C[Tetriste [1d\]: :D
cugel [1k\]: not we know why
cugel [1k\]: well, kill line
Imp20 [3k\]: that looks like a dead shape to me
cugel [1k\]: pretty hopeless  baring G14 miracle
braincrash [?\]: he already read g14 to deatch
kaketoe [11k\]: wow i suck at life and death
Tetriste [1d\]: e7 ?
kaketoe [11k\]: black cannot make one eye here?
Beeko [2k\]: Looks alive 
kaketoe [11k\]: that's what i thought
Imp20 [3k\]: can make 1 eye...
FASSBINDER [2d?\]: looks like capturing race
justdidit [1k\]: needs 2 eyes kaketoe
Imp20 [3k\]: don't know about 2 of them
noobienoob [3k\]: hmmm it can be alive
MXHero [3d\]: what's your sequence beeko?
yorugua [10k\]: where's the other eye kaketoe?
cugel [1k\]: w has more liberties
Riitoken [18k\]: so bF11 would have been better than bB11 right?
kaketoe [11k\]: oh right h10 is false =\\
]
;B[bj]C[kaketoe [11k\]: what happened there
evanj [3d\]: wow, you _do_ suck at life and death
evanj [3d\]: :P
kaketoe [11k\]: haha
evanj [3d\]: (sorry)
justdidit [1k\]: :)
kaketoe [11k\]: i am aware of this, yes
]
;W[bk]C[noobienoob [3k\]: there still may be a chance of b living
cugel [1k\]: at least u know
braincrash [?\]: noobie tell us
Tetriste [1d\]: I dont like b10
Imp20 [3k\]: b need to kill something... no room to live... have to run away
justdidit [1k\]: you ll play what?
kaketoe [11k\]: i didn't look at it because earlier with h11 i thought black made an eye
TurtleDove [5k\]: B j14 anything ?
Mdx [5k\]: b needs a lot 
kaketoe [11k\]: but what happened after?
noobienoob [3k\]: from b's perspective it seems there still is hope
Tsuijin [2d\]: resign inc =)
clydesdale [2k\]: looks dead to me
]
;B[ee]C[cugel [1k\]: cool
yorugua [10k\]: last try
Mdx [5k\]: snippppppppppppeeeeee
Riitoken [18k\]: b can't stop wA12 and can't make a single eye without threatening the support stones
braincrash [?\]: desperation mv
MXHero [3d\]: hehe well, that has the most aji of anything
Luxor: this is chinese rules or japanase?
Tetriste [1d\]: that looks pretty desperate
evanj [3d\]: this is a protoresignation
kaketoe [11k\]: what happened to the cool h11 move :(
JIeBuc [19k\]: b k12, w k13, b h13?
kaketoe [11k\]: i guess i'll have to watch the review
noobienoob [3k\]: poor b
Imp20 [3k\]: e14 connect
braincrash [?\]: good term evan
MXHero [3d\]: kaketoe, we both got out-tesujied :)
evanj [3d\]: thank you sir
Tetriste [1d\]: procraresignation
cugel [1k\]: K15 was just crazy
kaketoe [11k\]: ^^
evanj [3d\]: k15 was ill-advised
evanj [3d\]: indeed
calife [4d\]: D13
Tetriste [1d\]: tenuki
cugel [1k\]: lol
Riitoken [18k\]: w to play E14
cugel [1k\]: like ? S4 ?
braincrash [?\]: k15 was well advised earlier
Tetriste [1d\]: s4's cool
Tetriste [1d\]: I prefer m3
Tetriste [1d\]: or k2
kaketoe [11k\]: i think i'm slightly in over my head trying to grasp everything that happens ;p
MXHero [3d\]: how about h3
cugel [1k\]: at least u're trying & learning
Tetriste [1d\]: you dont like k2 MXHero?
Riitoken [18k\]: white simply cannot allow bE14
cugel [1k\]: it also above 1k head and probably 3d head too
MXHero [3d\]: idk, it all looks fun :)
kaketoe [11k\]: :)
Mdx [5k\]: fun?
braincrash [?\]: its just 2 eyes
MXHero [3d\]: i'm just adding to the list hehe
Mdx [5k\]: its suicide!
Tetriste [1d\]: :P
braincrash [?\]: 2 eyes over and over
Karcusrd [7k\]: b want c15
]
;W[ef]C[cugel [1k\]: good move
Riitoken [18k\]: who's yer daddy
Mongoose11 [8k\]: there's a vague chance of cut problems for w
kostuek [3k\]: not u
braincrash [?\]: bluff at c15 
evanj [3d\]: incidentally, mingjiu jiang just pointed out that before w played h12 b could have cut at g14
cugel [1k\]: F16 C17 not redundant after all
Riitoken [18k\]: B18
kaketoe [11k\]: it still looks to my noobie eye that k13, j14 would've made cut possible at h13, g14
justdidit [1k\]: b looks so dead now
]
;B[ck]C[Mdx [5k\]: u know what, kgs comments are like youtube, we need the like button
Mdx [5k\]: D:
cugel [1k\]: this is the resign seq
yorugua [10k\]: makemashita
]
;W[cl]C[Hawkeye [9k\]: nice idea mdx
Riitoken [18k\]: now bC15
Karcusrd [7k\]: b want to finish that side and protect the 55 space in R corner
clydesdale [2k\]: b thrashing about
cugel [1k\]: this is about D12 cut
Riitoken [18k\]: or B8
kostuek [3k\]: or resign
cugel [1k\]: but b dead
gryn [2k\]: b only dead if you believe he is dead
evanj [3d\]: i believe he is dead
Imp20 [3k\]: no... looks pretty dead
allinblue [4k\]: looks like
gryn [2k\]: your heart must be black like coal!
evanj [3d\]: hope not, but i have a physical next week, i'll let you know
Hawkeye [9k\]: no just his eyes clear like glass
cugel [1k\]: something like that yeash
gryn [2k\]: evanj :)
Riitoken [18k\]: bB18 wC18 bB16
]
;B[bg]C[Tetriste [1d\]: joking aside though, I'm thinking k2 may work, sort of
evanj [3d\]: b18 b17
MXHero [3d\]: maybe b can save the side! :)
cugel [1k\]: D13
Karcusrd [7k\]: poor SE feels so alone
Mdx [5k\]: did he
Riitoken [18k\]: force white to close the upper left corner
Mdx [5k\]: just
martin3141 [3d\]: c14 ?
Imp20 [3k\]: w a12
Mdx [5k\]: made one eye on d13?
ThiGar [4k\]: black needs a miracle
Riitoken [18k\]: b might have enough support to make a crack
]
;W[dh]C[Beeko [2k\]: crack?
cugel [1k\]: again i'm off 
Tetriste [1d\]: w letting b a chance to live
Mongoose11 [8k\]: w tires of this nonsense
evanj [3d\]: riitoken, the four points in the corner are completely beside the point
Mdx [5k\]: black can live on the side
Tetriste [1d\]: d13 d11 a12 
Imp20 [3k\]: yeah b has to let his teal go now
Mdx [5k\]: white couldnt had it all
cugel [1k\]: b already said he did 'nt want that trade
Riitoken [18k\]: that was a huge move for white
Imp20 [3k\]: tail*
Remina [4d\]: that's not a tail; that's like the entire body
cugel [1k\]: good move
evanj [3d\]: perhaps he has been compelled to change his mind
cugel [1k\]: b can resign
gryn [2k\]: that's a chinese dragon's tail
Tetriste [1d\]: how to answer w k2 :O
Beeko [2k\]: a12 and run?
kostuek [3k\]: run?
Beeko [2k\]: trololol
yorugua [10k\]: run where?
Riitoken [18k\]: ok so would black have done better with F6 rather than K15?
Beeko [2k\]: to the bathrom
JIeBuc [19k\]: D11?
braincrash [?\]: b actually not so far behind
ThiGar [4k\]: black missed 4 timings: the early take at k15, f6, f11, and th tesuji at g14!
cugel [1k\]: i know
golgo13 [8k\]: b live with seq starting with d11
ppkp: did b res???????/
cugel [1k\]: but behind
Mdx [5k\]: a12 and us sente
herg [3k\]: b cannot win now
kaketoe [11k\]: the o15 seemed important too 
gryn [2k\]: brain, that's because w only got his tail, not his behind.
KGSisKGS: could try k12
KGSisKGS: or k13
evanj [3d\]: when w comes out of this with sente to play on the bottom side b will be too far behind
]
;B[fm]C[herg [3k\]: unless white is very soft,  or too aggressive and makes mistake
braincrash [?\]: b has tremdous ko power now
]
;W[go]C[kaketoe [11k\]: that was my next question evanj :)
cugel [1k\]: good shape
ddttff [1d\]: e15 is a very bad move.
]
;B[em]C[cugel [1k\]: i think i would puke after F7 though
fly [1d\]: finally! my f7 move!
braincrash [?\]: i think we all rather take w here
cugel [1k\]: :)
ppkp: b res
]
;W[en]C[Hollumber [1k\]: is this still the resign seq?
jojo1 [?\]: live video streaming super great!!!!
kaketoe [11k\]: what is a resign sequence ;
Tetriste [1d\]: d13 first?
Hollumber [1k\]: and..who's gonna do the resigning?
evanj [3d\]: i dno't see what b can accomplish here
Mdx [5k\]: the very long one
cugel [1k\]: i hope sop
Remina [4d\]: a resign sequence is like a hail mary in football
]
;B[bl]C[ppkp: Black resigns
jojo1 [?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
;W[dk]C[braincrash [?\]: hmmm and hmmmm
ppkp: White wins by resignation
globax [3d\]: thx usgo01++
gryn [2k\]: eurogotv is broadcasting... us go congress??
kaketoe [11k\]: sadly i know less about football than i do about go ;p
cugel [1k\]: yeah
Mongoose11 [8k\]: a play that's unlikely to work, but is the only thing with any chance at all
igoAggie [3k\]: not much about that is sad
cugel [1k\]: after all, europe is the mother of us =p
kaketoe [11k\]: perhaps the fact that i know very little of both ;p
bulldaubo [8k\]: and ur still 11k in go?
igoAggie [3k\]: but a 30k in football
gryn [2k\]: cugel, except for those of us who it isn't
kaketoe [11k\]: :D
Riitoken [18k\]: hey USGO ... give us a table posture report again plz.
kaketoe [11k\]: i'm definitely a 30k in football yes
mw2a [1k\]: the us is part of europse
ppkp: the us is part of asia
cugel [1k\]: i have tenderness for the usa u know
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;B[dg]C[kostuek [3k\]: please keep ur comments related to football
]
;W[di]C[cugel [1k\]: :)
ZeroKun [-\]: i hope this poor soul streaming this has a tripod
cugel [1k\]: this is still the restign seq, yes
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;B[ak]C[mw2a [1k\]: he has a bipod
Imp20 [3k\]: this is the last thralls of the black dragon lashing out every wich way it can
Tetriste [1d\]: e13 ?
Mongoose11 [8k\]: *throes
Mongoose11 [8k\]: thrall: mindless slave
Imp20 [3k\]: its a mindless slave =P
yorugua [10k\]: is e13 good enough?
gryn [2k\]: e13 doesn't matter if the dragon isn't alive yet.
Imp20 [3k\]: its head's been cut off
Jake123 [6k\]: e13 is not good enought
evanj [3d\]: a12 and e13 are miai
Beeko [2k\]: if black lives i would want ot shake his hand
Tetriste [1d\]: b can live anytime gryn
cugel [1k\]: dragon smalled into the ground
gryn [2k\]: tet, but he hasn't...
evanj [3d\]: the 22 corner stones are dead
evanj [3d\]: 21*
Imp20 [3k\]: wE13
kaketoe [11k\]: i keep repeating this in my mind, k13, k12, j14
cugel [1k\]: center stones
badooking [4d\]: e13 more than enough
evanj [3d\]: it never worked, kaketoe
kaketoe [11k\]: haha
kaketoe [11k\]: i believe that
evanj [3d\]: at one time g14 worked
evanj [3d\]: long long ago
TurtleDove [5k\]: B j14 can give a crane's nest line ... fun
fly [1d\]: yes, minjiu was pointing that out in the commentary
kaketoe [11k\]: i guess i'll work it out later :)
eurogotv [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
mw2a [1k\]: e13 c7 ?
evanj [3d\]: fly: indeed, i wasn't trying to pretend i came up with it myself :P
Tetriste [1d\]: w can get e13 and h4
noobienoob [3k\]: hahaha i knew black wasnt going to die told u so
Beeko [2k\]: Is there a site i dont have to sign up for?
cugel [1k\]: E13 enuough ?
Imp20 [3k\]: its free to sign up
evanj [3d\]: just sign up, don't be such a priss about it
Tetriste [1d\]: problem is
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;W[eg]C[Imp20 [3k\]: just need an email address
Imp20 [3k\]: lol
Tetriste [1d\]: c7
cugel [1k\]: yes neough
cugel [1k\]: ...
secureid [7k\]: over
shaguaa: c7 d7
mw2a [1k\]: can't admins bban anymore?
Vash3G [-\]: they can but they can kick you more
SunnyD [2d\]: mw2a, game comment please
badooking [4d\]: this is enough i counted
cugel [1k\]: ok
Mongoose11 [8k\]: badooking, b+?
Tetriste [1d\]: b gotta live in gote
googlebear [3k\]: d7
ThiGar [4k\]: "this is the end" sang a band from ?
kostuek [3k\]: admin-bot would be cool, to repeat this randomly in a game
badooking [4d\]: W+
braincrash [?\]: c7 
cugel [1k\]: how can yu think b win
evanj [3d\]: w has over 60 point sin the center, three corners, and sente
Hoyuk [?\]: hi evanj
evanj [3d\]: hard to beat that
USGO1 [-\]: Bill just resigned
MXHero [3d\]: and h4
cugel [1k\]: good
Tetriste [1d\]: or maybe b d7?
cugel [1k\]: thx for relay & kib
USGO1 [-\]: White (Dae Hyuk Ko) wins
MXHero [3d\]: thanks usgo1!
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